OccupyEducated Forums » Tag: obama - Recent Posts http://occupyeducated.org/forums/tags.php?tag=obama Educating & Uniting 100% of The 99% en-US Tue, 21 May 2013 22:22:58 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.1 OccupyPosters on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=3#post-1080 Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:37:36 +0000 OccupyPosters 1080@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ A couple of things:

1. People here who are arguing that their voting behavior for this 2012 presidential election will be AGAINST Obama in some way are likely not who you think they are. Visit http://www.facebook.com/KarlRoveAndOps and read a few posts to understand exactly what I mean, and don't be fooled by moles.

2. You may not think so, but there is no more important election in your lifetime, and it all centers on the Supreme Court and Citizen's United.

IF ROMNEY WINS: we have 3 or 4 conservative SCOTUS replacements over the next 4 years giving the court a CONSERVATIVE majority for the next 15 to 20 years.

IF OBAMA WINS: we have 3 or 4 liberal SCOTUS replacements over the next 4 years, giving the court a LIBERAL majority for the next 15 to 20 years.

IF YOU AUTHENTICALLY THINK SOMEONE OTHER THAN ROMNEY OR OBAMA CAN POSSIBLY WIN, YOU ARE A COMPLETE MATHEMATICAL IDIOT AND HAVE YOUR HEAD SO FAR UP YOUR ASS YOU ARE STARVING YOUR BRAIN OF OXYGEN.

How would you like Citizen's United to be the law of the land over the next 15 to 20 years? If that sounds terrible to you, AND IT SHOULD, you better vote pragmatically for Obama.

To see the above info graphically, see http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6571/scotusromneyobama260dpi.jpg

]]> areuserious on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=3#post-606 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:35:32 +0000 areuserious 606@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ In that sense I agree with you. But I don't think allowing someone as dangerous as romney to take the white house is the right way to show them.

]]> gliftor on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=3#post-605 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:16:55 +0000 gliftor 605@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ If we're serious about any kind of change, we have to think long-term. The Right was thinking long-term back in 1970 when it went to work "educating" liberalism almost out of existence. What it has accomplished since then is really incredible. It has shifted the language and thinking of American politics from a point where Richard Nixon had to pose an an environmentalist, to our current state in which Barack Obama has to pay homage to Calvin Coolidge economic theory (in the middle of a crisis that demonstrated the utter worthlessness of that theory!) There was no structural revolution - there was only a highly-focused effort to change the terms of political discussion.

We saw in the 08 election how little change the Democratic party can offer. The reelection of Obama is of trivial value compared to the possibility of changing the discussion - which is the one thing an Occupy movement can attempt to do. There's nothing we can do to change the Republicans. But if the Democrats can be made to see that they can't count on the progressives' votes without making serious attempts to implement progressive policies, that will be one step - out of many necessary steps - in the right direction.

]]> areuserious on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=3#post-604 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:22:27 +0000 areuserious 604@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ What's REALLY sad is when you have been manipulated into believing squating in a park or screaming through a bullhorn is really going to inspire any real political change. Not hatin just sayin.

You are a fool if you believe this or any other movement is going to tear down and rebuild our governing structure. Its possible to alter and change what we have but you will never revolutionize it.

As I said, 1 of these men will be president. Ill take the one pseudo on my side over the one that flaunts how much he is not.

You've gotten the attention of the world, Now do something with it.

]]> gliftor on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=3#post-603 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 06:13:49 +0000 gliftor 603@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ Living in reality, we have to admit that the electoral system gives us the choice between fake conservatives and a fake progressive, and will deliver a real servant of corporate interests no matter whom we elect. It's very sad when people who claim to support a movement that says "NO" to politics as usual - whether an Occupy movement or a Tea Party movement - are manipulated into supporting one of the fakes.

]]> RayBanz on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=2#post-602 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:50:21 +0000 RayBanz 602@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ Occupy is non-partisan and to reduce action into the 'lesser of two evils" election lose-lose paradigm yet again is to overlook possibilities. We must look stop being crippled by either - or thinking. It freezes the mind. rEvolution not REactionary. Look for
new ways. Pull out the dominoe that allows the status quo to maytag again, again, again.

]]> areuserious on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=2#post-601 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:12:29 +0000 areuserious 601@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ Wow, Politicalsentry(with the exception of a few points by tmrykalo) is the only one who seems to live in reality here. Its very sad when you claim to believe in a movement like occupy yet are considering letting the Repuiblicans take office. Is this for real?
Romney IS the 1%! The others openly mock your efforts and you would consider letting these nut cases run this country again? Don't forget who pushed our country into the position were in, in the first place.
Obama may not be your savior but he's clearly not the enemy.

One of these men WILL be president at the end of this, and it could be the Democrat hat is. Taking tax breaks away from business's that are shipping YOUR jobs over seas, or it can be the guy that's shipping them over seas, and believes Corporations are people and defends the 1% by saying the 99% "are just envious" and don't work hard enough.

Think about what you are doing and what you really believe in. I don't want to speak for the entire movement but if you are for the Republicans you are against the core beliefs of this movement.

]]> gliftor on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=2#post-497 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:11:20 +0000 gliftor 497@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ Obama's presidency has served an important purpose; it has shown that the two-party system that we have today is completely worthless. The country is more likely to survive four years with Michele Bachmann as president than forty more years with a Democratic party that continues to support the plutocracy and the military-industrial complex. Either we let the Democratic party as we know it be destroyed, or we have no way to change anything until the whole American system destroys itself.

]]> tmrykalo on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=2#post-496 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:56:49 +0000 tmrykalo 496@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ I am torn. I have been disappointed by Obama and the Democratic Party. I voted for Democratic candidates that didn't excite me in previous elections (Al Gore) because I believed in the importance of my one vote and I was fearful of the consequences of the lack of my vote contributing to four years of being ravaged by the Republican agenda (the Bush administration was truly frightening). I admonished liberal friends who didn't vote that year.
But how important is my one vote if other voters are apathetic and/or they swallow the media construction of their realities? Ultimately I resign myself to voting for Obama again although he too is embedded in our corporate-interest driven system of government. The simple truth is there are some real policy differences between democrats and republicans as other posts have described. But my vote has to be paired with meaningful systemic change. There needs to be a sustained effort of long-term organizing, civic engagement and the political education of a cross-section of the masses, not just like-minded people on this blog. OWS offers us an opportunity to do that by building on its momentum.

]]> politicalsentry on "Obama..the only viable candidate for 2012" http://occupyeducated.org/forums/topic.php?id=240&page=2#post-492 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:40:29 +0000 politicalsentry 492@http://occupyeducated.org/forums/ And Paul, you're saying you'd rather have a Republican: probably Romney?

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